And was she a likely candidate to be the first woman managing a senior men's football team?

So just before we dive into some of those details, I just want to acknowledge some previous pioneers before we get to this stage.

And it's a lesser known fact, but actually there's a number of women that have held similar positions in men's professional football internationally.

So in 1999, we had Carolina Moraes, who was, she was in Italy.

I just need to remind myself which club she was in.

So she was in Vita Besse.

So she managed that team 1999.

I mean, even things like, you know, the nature of the injuries that women footballers have had because of where using women's sportswear that's really designed for men are we now at a point where um it's not that it's now effectively becoming um established accepted within the game as a whole of this difference or i mean are we still sort of at a place where the women's game is still trying to quote catch up um in terms of the the issues that that that should be front and center