Tell us about that moment.

Well, so I cook every single day.

And people, I often get asked the question, how do you do it? But I'm like, how do you not do it? We eat every day.

And I'm not going out to eat in restaurants.

I'm a mum of three and I have a moderate income.

So we eat what I cook at home.

And so they are the sort of, you know, I cook to my audience.

How's she getting on with her cooking at university? Is she making friends through her food? Yes, she is.

But historically, we understand that there are certain things that have happened that continue to happen that prejudice specifically women in these marriages, right?

Yes, and there is so much case law where stories reveal themselves of wives who do not know one another.

Do not know that they both married the same man.

And then the competition, for lack of a better word, for the resources that are available, if that husband is to die, and if they were dependent upon him, and if they have children who were dependent on him, and so...

Sure.

The ramifications, if there is not oversight and if there is not protection afforded to a vulnerable class... then there could be very, very serious outcomes for those people.

And what the courts function in that regard is to provide a protective mechanism to ensure that the proprietary regime of both marriages are catered for and dealt with and that people are not potentially prejudiced.

Why should they even bother to register their

When did you realize you wanted to write this book this way, as letters to your daughter?

Oh, it makes...

I think I might cry as well on this recording.

That sentence just sends shivers up my spine because it is that, you know, Grace is the daughter of two chefs.

I'm married to a chef, and I am a chef, and you know, our girls have grown up around food.

And she left home, and I worried about her washing and doing her washing at the laundromat, and I worried about getting her to her lectures and living in a new city and losing the battery on her phone and going out and not being able to find her way home.

But I worried about what she was gonna eat, and they've all grown up around food, but I really questioned whether she'd fit all that in.

So what do you make or what do you recommend people make if you haven't had time to go shopping, so you're just looking at your pantry?

So is the defaulting because people can't afford it or is it something else?

I mean, I think we should perhaps start at the point at which some people just can't afford it.

And I think if we were to rewind a little bit to a not very distant history to COVID, where so many people lost their jobs and this question of maintenance became a very real problem.

Like I've lost my job.

I've been retrenched.

My work doesn't exist anymore as it did.

And I don't have a source of income.

Yeah, and I

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I will nominate Richard Olney.

So he was a food writer, an American living in France.

And when I first started being a chef in my early 20s, my head chefs gave me this reading list.

And he said, if you're going to cook well, you need to read well.

And he sort of gave this list of names of the people I should be reading if I really wanted to be in the world of food and cookery.

So I had Claudia Rodin, Paula Wolfert, Jane Grigson, Elizabeth David, Alan Davidson, and Richard Olney.

Oh, wow.