How do you get them engaged in getting them on board with what you know could make them better and be more efficient when they don't want to?

So this is something that we've recently gotten into heavily.

So I help run our tech.

I do run our technology and AI committee.

And just last week, I had my first workshop.

And again, we need to keep up with the technology and everyone uses Microsoft.

And instead, we're a big company and we do a lot of work in New York City, but we're not the giant general contractors that have unlimited money to spend on software's.

I could sense that when we were there and met you all.