So why don't we start out by defining normal puberty?

So puberty is, to us, this very exciting process, um, where a child grows into more adult physiology, capable of reproduction.

Um, it's a little bit different, the timing, um, and length of it for girls and boys.

Um, so for girls, the average age of starting puberty is eight to 13, and I think that eight is a little bit lower than a lot of people recognize, so eight is a normal time to start.

And then it follows this sort of typical progression over three to four years.

Um, so starting with thelarche, or breast budding, um, progressing to adrenarche, so that's really the adrenal glands waking up.

Um, and then followed by the growth spurt, so that median age is, like, 11 and a half for that, and then ends in menarche, or first period.

So it sounds like things are shifting a little bit earlier in general, but are we still using the same cutoffs that we've used historically in terms of defining precocious puberty?

That, it has to be at least that thick, at least.

Like, after reading the, the conversation on Belle Vernon's book where I found out that one of the big issues is that she had purchased a lot of their property and put both of them on the deed, assuming that they'd be together forever [laughs] and then they get divorced, and, like, he owns her, the money she had going into this relationship.

Yeah

... become such prizes societally.

Like, it's so impressive to get to be the guy who dates or marries these beautiful women, but I think men have a really, really hard time with not being the breadwinner.

But ultimately in a relationship like this, like in a relationship dynamic where somebody is working that hard that globally, it's nearly impossible to keep it going if you're, if one party is not willing to be subsumed by the other one.

And I think the only way that kind of relationship can go is if both people are working on a common goal.

But men have such a hard time saying, "You're the star.

Like, I remember being like, I've

never been so in the world of a book before where I like my physical experience had been changed because I like was so in it.

There's also a quote at the end of the book or not at the end.

One of the footnotes I can read it that like to me has been one of the truest statements in my life that I think about kind of daily, maybe like once a week.

Can I read it? Yeah, please.

OK, it's one.

It's cage three is the description of one of.

where it's like oh you can never phase me

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...

I think they're...

Like, do you know what I mean? Like, I think they're gorgeous and they can do each other's makeup and they can style, they can do Mary Kate and Ashley every single day.

That being said, I'm having a hard time with KJ's mental health struggles simply because there is no reality where you're honoring your mental health on a reality show.

I think he wants it.

He's showing up going, "These people are my family." They were not your family.

I think they were, like, acquaintances beforehand.

Mm.

I think my overall feeling about celebrity...

I mean, just to, like, have one takeaway- Yeah ...

I feel that if you're putting it online, it is up for consumption, it's up for grabs.

We're allowed to ask questions about it.

Yeah.

I believe in respecting the boundaries laid out by them, but I think you look at a Busy Philipps, a Kim K- Kardashian, if you're putting it online for us to praise, for you to exploit, for you to make money, we're allowed to, like, then ask questions when things fall apart.

Yeah.

Hearing you talk makes me feel stupid about the world already, but tell me about this, this genocide.

Oh my God.

Okay, so basically this book, The Jakarta Method, it's about how, like, in, during the Cold War, they came up with this, there was the Jakarta Axiom, which meant that, like, if you were a Third World country, which I did not know, Third World, you, started out positive.

It kind of was, like the, it was like the First World was American and European capitalism, the Second World was the USSR communism, and the Third World was, like, named after initially, like, the Third Estate, the idea of, like, here's this new way to figure out how the world could work, and it was these former colonies-

Mm-hmm.

It's like, I think Jamie Lynn Spears is a really good example of somebody who was able to do this.

She was, had this whole book about how we were supposed to feel so sorry for her, 'cause her parents were so awful to her, and her life was so awful.

And when she got pregnant, her parents did want her to abort.

think this is the first time you've really broached this in kind of a serious way in terms of stand-up?

Yeah, because I think my stand-up is quite reflective of what I'm actually going through at every period of my life.

And something I'm really lucky about in my career is that because of the podcasts and the success of my two podcasts, I have these like incredibly... female audiences.

Like 92% of the people who listen to our podcasts are women.

And you record a podcast alone in a room.

I'm with my best friend.

We're just chatting honestly.

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