Look at how much you do within it.

Yeah, look, I started off and I wouldn't have done it without Megan.

So I've always worked at NGOs and government, you know, started off in disabilities when I was 17.

So, oh, God, 30 years ago.

And, yeah, it really did.

Sometimes I forget how old I am, how elderly I'm getting.

Yeah, and I worked drug and alcohol, homelessness, disability, you know, all, you know, kiddies' corrections, youth justice, all that sort of stuff.

Yeah, so