yeah that's interesting yeah I imagine because she likes she was at an XC event that I did the other week and it was yeah she seems to be all over the place everywhere so do you have any tips for To give people

for their first Enduro.

First Enduro.

I think what's special about ours is that we release what the stages are.

So we're just about to head into May.

Our race isn't until September.

The weather's getting nicer now.

Oh my goodness.

Welcome, Claire.

Thank you.

I feel like there's a parent-child relationship theme in all of these today, 'cause my question is, um...

And I'll try not to cry.

But, um, so we have two daughters.

They're 11 and 16.

Um, so we are in the, the throes of teenage girl drama.

[laughs]