So what do you think made the difference? Why is the crowd so big this year?

Well, we've, in the, in the last couple years we've had really good success with our roughstock riders.

We've had Tristan won a couple national titles.

Kai won a world title.

Cameron's won a national championship.

We've been winning national titles at both ends of the arena.

And then we've had, um, I think we've had now 20 academic All-Americans since I've been here.

In everything, wow.