... what is, how do we tie that back even to minimum standards or to state compliance?

Well, here's, here's one of the things we uncovered.

So we, as you know, Kate, I explained to you and, and I've been telling people kind of all around at different conferences, we did a deep dive into violation data across the 50 states.

We don't have all 50 states, I'll be honest, but we do have a large pletha, uh, plethora of violation data across about 35 to 40 states.

We're building a data warehouse of them.

One of the things that comes up as a violation, and many of our advocacy organizations are trying to get this to not even be something that can be written as a violation or a citation, but it's almost always, almost all childcare gets a violation or citation around staff records and around staff training.

Why? Well, because the requirements are different depending upon where that person is located, where in their career they are.

Set it and forget it

So tell me a little bit more about what you meant when you said, "Kicking the can is still gonna be harder regardless of when the time comes."

Yeah.

There is no good time for change, right? Everyone resists it.

[laughs] Everyone, myself included.

So, you're amongst friends here.

You know, we, we all tend to shy away from change.

We wanna stay in our patterns of behavior and our operational cadences that we're familiar with, that we're comfortable with.

... green build or brown build or, you know-