Gotcha.

They were in the office five days a week, so it didn't seem ...

You know, it didn't seem to make sense to have somebody that wasn't there five days a week.

They really wanted somebody there to be able to answer questions.

Some companies, they just don't need ...

Again, with the fractional support, they might bring me on as the head of HR, but I'm not really there full time.

But again, the employees don't really know that either.

If you were speaking to another leader, and maybe even one of your clients that you work with, who did not believe that workplace suicide prevention is important, what would you say to get them to change their mind?