Mm-hmm

... you know, I'd been on the other side that's like an editor or a ghostwriter writing other people's content obviously.

And, um, and it was...

So I was in that transition period where the pandemic had happened.

So I finished, my gosh, I think it was like maybe my 11th book I had ghostwritten.

And I finished it in May of 2020, and it was so brutal because, you know, during that time I had a kindergartner and a third-grader, and they never left.

And writing is just not something you can do in like tiny chunks.

Right