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Cindy Ariel

Cindy Ariel

Licensed psychologist specializing in autism spectrum disorders and neurodivergent relationships; co-host of the progressive feminist podcast "Shrinks on Third."

Aug 11, 2026

18:24
And the neurotypical person might think, "It never seems like my partner is trying to contribute or show me love and care." And so I wonder, how do you help two partners who have, like, a pretty big m- understanding gap in what is appropriate to expect in a close relationship?
18:44
Usually these are people who do love and care for each other.
18:48
That's why they're coming, right? Because they, they wanna find that again.
18:53
So I find out how this person is expressing their love and care.
19:00
So for example, I saw a couple recently who the woman, um, was deciding to change her job and look for a new job, and she felt like her partner was just not supporting her at all in that, just not caring.
19:21
And this was in a session, and he was like dumbfounded, like, "What? I helped you research all these other jobs.
19:31
I told you, like, I'd be willing to move.
23:18
When you say a third kind of way, what, what kinds of s- solution spaces have you arrived at with the couples you work with?
16:18
So if there are challenges in communication, what might those challenges be in a neurodivergent, neurotypical relationship?
16:30
One of the ways people are diagnosed autistic have to do with their difference in communication with neurotypical people.
16:40
So that is so huge, right? Because when your brain is wired differently, everything is wired differently.
16:49
So the rules of communication are very, very different.
16:55
I don't want to keep saying like it's not all neurotypical people, it's not all autistic people, but that's true.
17:00
So whatever I say doesn't apply to everybody on either end.
17:05
But in general, there are a lot of major issues.

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37:48
I often say that some of my autistic and neurodivergent friends are more self-aware and more deeply kind of searching for who they are as a person, at least from my perspective, than some of my neurotypical friends, because they've been working on it so much in their lives you know, in terms of, well, why did I react that way? Or why is this aspect of my sensory world so dysregulating for me? It's almost like a constant self-examination, which always results, I think, in kind of not all, when it happens, it results in a greater sense of competence and comfort with who you are.

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