
Cindy Ariel
Licensed psychologist specializing in autism spectrum disorders and neurodivergent relationships; co-host of the progressive feminist podcast "Shrinks on Third."
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Aug 11, 2026
472. One Relationship, Two Brains with Cindy Ariel
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18:24Yael SchonbrunHOST
And the neurotypical person might think, "It never seems like my partner is trying to contribute or show me love and care." And so I wonder, how do you help two partners who have, like, a pretty big m- understanding gap in what is appropriate to expect in a close relationship?

Cindy ArielGUEST
So for example, I saw a couple recently who the woman, um, was deciding to change her job and look for a new job, and she felt like her partner was just not supporting her at all in that, just not caring.

Cindy ArielGUEST
And this was in a session, and he was like dumbfounded, like, "What? I helped you research all these other jobs.
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23:18Yael SchonbrunHOST
When you say a third kind of way, what, what kinds of s- solution spaces have you arrived at with the couples you work with?
On Neurotypical and Neurodivergent Relationships, with Dr. Cindy Ariel.
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16:18Barry PrizantHOST
So if there are challenges in communication, what might those challenges be in a neurodivergent, neurotypical relationship?

Cindy ArielGUEST
One of the ways people are diagnosed autistic have to do with their difference in communication with neurotypical people.

Cindy ArielGUEST
So that is so huge, right? Because when your brain is wired differently, everything is wired differently.

Cindy ArielGUEST
I don't want to keep saying like it's not all neurotypical people, it's not all autistic people, but that's true.
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37:48Barry PrizantHOST
I often say that some of my autistic and neurodivergent friends are more self-aware and more deeply kind of searching for who they are as a person, at least from my perspective, than some of my neurotypical friends, because they've been working on it so much in their lives you know, in terms of, well, why did I react that way? Or why is this aspect of my sensory world so dysregulating for me? It's almost like a constant self-examination, which always results, I think, in kind of not all, when it happens, it results in a greater sense of competence and comfort with who you are.