
Ciarán Devane
Executive and former CEO of the British Council
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Jun 12, 2026
How racism hurts NHS services - with Ciarán Devane and Stacey Hunter
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1:41Dave WestHOST
So I thought I'd ask you, what's one thing that you think has changed significantly in your time away, if there is any, and one thing that you think really hasn't changed but should have changed?

Ciarán DevaneGUEST
I think the thing which hasn't changed is we're still talking about some of the same things.

Ciarán DevaneGUEST
You know, 10 years ago, 12 years ago, 15 years ago, we were talking about integrated care.
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Abolishing NHS England, a generation at risk and Jim Mackey in conversation
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Adam BrimelowHOST
What, what are you getting in terms of a sense of the state of the NHS, how health leaders are, are feeling, and, and what do you think is the NHS Alliance's role in supporting them?

Ciarán DevaneGUEST
The first thing for me is that the fundamental truths, which are that the NHS has been and continues to be incredibly successful.

Ciarán DevaneGUEST
Uh, one of the consequences of that we-- is we have a, uh, an older population with a large number of frail elderly, for example, um, which demands a different model.

Ciarán DevaneGUEST
Um, but also demands the continuing excellence of, for example, the existing acute, um, hospitals, because that's why we are likely to live longer as well.

Ciarán DevaneGUEST
So the reform agenda that everybody talks about, whether it's about neighborhoods or it's about, um, supporting hospitals to focus on the people they really need to focus on and taking some of the other stuff away, those truths are there.