stories.

I'd never really horse ridden before.

I'd like been on a horse, you know, where they're like, oh, you can sit on one on a beach.

And I'm like, this is quite stunning, but like never actually done anything.

And then my friend Jodie, full-on equestrian, owns a beautiful horse, has ridden all her life.

We were on this, like, stay somewhere in Ireland where they had an equestrian centre.

And she was like, come on, we'll go out for a ride.

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I vaguely remember that back in 2011 and around that period, the argument in respect of stamp duty relief was that if you gave the relief, it would effectively be immediately absorbed by the market into the sale price of the house and achieve nothing other than allowing the developers to make a few more quid.

Yes, and that's going to be the argument I'm sure that is made again this time.

And the problem, I suppose, with abolishing something like stamp duty for first-time buyers or giving them this relief is that it benefits absolutely everybody who is a first-time buyer, including those who can well afford to get on the property market.

And there are those who are out there.

Does it actually really genuinely help those who are currently priced out of the market? Or given how constrained the market is, will it ultimately just push up prices? It's hard to know.

I suppose the problem is it goes back to always trying to put sticking plasters on the problem here.

You know, the government trying to deal with all of the symptoms and not doing enough to deal with the cause.

What exactly did they do?