And where does that come from, the entertainment part?

Well, I mean, as a kid, you know, uh, I was raised by my grandparents.

And, uh, you know, a, a big thing with, uh... that was on Sundays and watching The Ed Sullivan Show.

And I mean, even back as far as when I was five years old and six years old, seeing the comedians and, and the singers and the bands playing on there, I wanted to be a musician.

Watching American Bandstand, my, uh, being raised by my grandparents, I had four aunts that were living with me that were basically, the youngest one was 10 years older than me.

So I would come home after school, and I'd watch the Mickey Mouse Club, but then American Bandstand would be on, on ABC.

And I'd sit with them, and you know, I'd see, uh, like, I can remember seeing Fats Domino, you know, the first time, and, and seeing, um, you know, people like Buddy Holly and, and, and, and going, wow, you know, at five years old.

So 28 years ago, or maybe 29 years ago, when you thought, "This is what I want to do," what did you have in mind for that festival?