I'd love to dive into the mindset of what you're – what do you see in yeah because i see developers they're usually a few years ahead uh in terms of spotting locations what do you what do you look for what are you seeing at the moment sure

so so that that question specific to our to our model obviously so my model is is different to other other developers models so they would have a different answer to that question um we I'm an old PRD guy, so I come from PRD, Gordon and Archie Douglas.

That stands for Property Research and Development, so I'm into research.

So I read Cleosy's report a few years ago, and it said that the price difference between beachfront and non-beachfront should be 30%.

And at Palm Beach, where you are, it's currently 100%.

And I thought, well, we're Sherpas, so we're the custodians, I think, of our buyer's journey.

So part of our job, I think, is to really go and identify side opportunities that provide great value and great upside and great opportunities.

What's your take on the fences at the moment on the Gold Coast? And how do you, I guess, what would your communication be to those people who might be against

Yeah.

So slightly differently to that, I'm blessed to be here today because to be truthful, I'm going to get more out of this than your listeners will because it's been reflective, which is really good.

And I was thinking that When I first went into partnership with Bruce, when we changed to PRD, I met his son, Justin, who's an extraordinary guy as well.

And I think I was 32 or something.

I gave up drinking when I was 30 because I'm an alcoholic.

And I thought, I've got to stop this or I'm going to self-destruct.

And I didn't have much going on in my life.

And by the end of it, you'll get a bit of a feel like, how is it going to, A QS, is it just meeting with builders? How do you give yourself confidence to then put your balls on the line and go, there's a deposit, I'm going for it? Especially that first time you kind of get into that, I'm assuming it will be an interesting journey.