
Christopher Papin
Licensed attorney and CPA in Oklahoma; founder of Papin CPA and Papin Law; host of the BLABO podcast; author of "168 Hours"
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Jul 25, 2026
Value-Based Selling for Professional Services
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John GoldenHOST
And it probably complicates things for people like you when you have conversations with them.

Christopher PapinGUEST
So, John, this is incredible insight and this is a great conversation to have.

Christopher PapinGUEST
as long as i have the right mindset that goes with this so your observation about getting bad data the the way we kind of approach ai as a firm is we clients are using it so we must be using it but there's different models for different things there's closed-end systems where pii is safe there's open-end systems where it is not what you use how you use it it all behaves in the same way there is an info dump in of which contacts may or may not be lacking.

Christopher PapinGUEST
So we talk to our team regularly about we will thrive at the decision points.

Christopher PapinGUEST
So you search for a 754 election for your partnership in your language learning model of choice.
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He's a Lawyer AND a CPA. Here's the One Question That Changed His Sales | with Christopher Papin
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Christopher PapinGUEST
It wasn't quite this direct, but I started skipping pieces of the chapter and went to the professor.

Christopher PapinGUEST
I'm like, why are we skipping the good stuff? And the essence of it was what we were studying was accounting.
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James DonovanHOST
People have actually asked the question like, hey, do you chase the trophies or do you nominate yourself?