Yeah.

Lots of experiments.

Put, putting, um, remote viewers or telepaths inside a Faraday cage or inside a chamber lined with lead and they can still do it.

Um, St- Stephen Schwartz, you may know, um, was involved in, uh, Project Deep Quest in which Ingo Swann was down inside a submarine 500 miles.

[laughs] They actually worked this out, made it feasible.

They had a submarine at their disposal.

People can look it up, Project Deep Quest.

Yeah

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Yeah, that's a really good question.

In the last couple of chapters of my book, Mind Speak, it's about people going out on an expedition with an autistic, a very gifted autistic young man.

And he's able to be mentally in touch with a local group.

And he says, well, they've moved over there.

And then you hear them over there, you know.

And I've heard lots of stories over the years of the attunement between autistic folks and Sasquatch.

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So you have your master's in philosophy and- Is this a lifelong thing that you've been thinking about, the, the, this whole topic? Or is this something that came on later after you slowed down in your teaching?

After I slowed down in my dotage, yes.

No, I'll tell you what.

Uh, my interest in the unseen world and the, the, the, the nature of consciousness and what it can do within our physical world started when I was 17, and had a long interaction with a, a ghost, with a, an older friend of mine.

A woman, older friend of mine, my writing mentor and I, she lived in an old house in Vermont just a, a couple miles from me in northern Vermont, and she told me that she'd been having interesting phenomena in her house, including she and her husband would be in their bedroom at the old part of the house, and her husband would sometimes see a little light come down, like Tinker Bell in the, in Peter Pan, but a little light come over her head and just hover there while she was asleep, and then just dissipate up into the ceiling.

And also there was, in the same old part of the house, there was a, a column of light, a, a sort of a vague column of light that you could see.

It didn't have any definition to it, but when they would bring people back there and show it to them, they would all have the same impression in their mind of a sad, hunched over, old, old man with overalls on, like a farmer.

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Thanks a lot for coming back.

Hey, Jim.

Great to be here.

Um, yeah, before we came on here, you were saying it's a, a tough, uh, tough kind of pill to swallow.

This, this book, it's very t- it's very technical.

It's very dense.

It's tricky to get a hold of.

They're out there, they're just, they just have these abilities and, and they've somehow they've, they sh- they're doing it.