What do you see? Are people still utilizing 9.0 directly moving to 9.1, starting with 9.1? What's your, what's your current position on that one?

So coup- couple different angles here that we're gonna talk about, right? One, I, I wanna, I wanna just get it out there front and center is it has never been easier to adopt vSphere, but more particularly VCF, and the, the lead, and I'll lead on that, is the, the upgrade advisor.

So we had an internal tool that we said, "We're gonna make this for partners.

No, wait, we're gonna make this for everybody." And it's the upgrade advisor that gets updated daily.

Literally when there's an update, a KB, something that's fixed on something like some element that, that is adjusted, they're going in and updating that thing daily, not three months from now or not a year from now.

They are constantly going and updating the upgrade advisor to make the ability to adopt 9.1 from any earlier version easier.

So, so talking about where people are coming from, right? On the one hand it's like I'm on VCF 5.2, which is, you know, there's like 1,000 or so people.

It changes the discussion.