Was there anyone backstage where you actually got a little starstruck from?

You could start with the Obamas and just kind of work your way down.

Every single day was another sighting of the most accomplished artists and folks that you grow up watching on TV and in films and everything.

And then when we met them afterwards on stage, the stage turned into the dopest green room in the world.

I'm sure.

Absolutely.

That's a good idea, Lin.

We were in performance doing a performance of In the Heights on stage during a number.

He

was like, do you want to watch it? Sure.

And the first segment was, Hulk Hogan, before all of the scandals and lies, the lie, but whatever, came out and it was, he's really synonymous with WrestleMania.

And then the glass broke and Stone Cold Steve Austin came out.

And we had never gotten...

That's one of the biggest what-ifs in wrestling history is what if a Prime Hogan versus a Prime Austin went toe-to-toe? And then, sure enough, The Rock came out.

And that's my second favorite.

Yeah.

was

like, do you want to watch it? Sure.

And the first segment happened.

Hulk Hogan, before all of the scandals and lies, the lie, but whatever, came out and it was, he's really synonymous with WrestleMania.

And then the glass broke and Stone Cold Steve Austin came out.

And we had never gotten, that's one of the biggest what ifs in wrestling history is what about, what if a prime Hogan versus a prime Austin went toe to toe? And then sure enough, the rock came out and that's my second favorite.

Yeah.

Yeah.

wow so and this is kind of giving fls which was right there at the booth very much so so every day is a different show

Well, it can be.

It can be.

We've had a run of a couple of, a few shows where we got to play with the same characters.

But as I understand it, with each new person that comes in, they flip it, they add a little something, switch it up, keeps it fresh, but it's hilarious.

They don't miss.

No one misses in this.

Yes.

What does leadership mean to you today?

Yeah.

What does leadership mean to me today? Yeah, it's hard to summarise in a short sentence, but I'm not prone to short sentences, so I'll go for a long one.

Look, I think leadership's a real privilege.

I think there's positional authority and then there's personal authority.

I think that there's many roles out there which have leadership components to them.

Head of a research group, professor in a university, research teacher.

And which three books have most influenced the way you think about medicine, leadership or just life in a way?

Are these people waiting because we're not looking for bowel cancer in young people?

Yeah, well, look, I think a, a number of people with bowel cancer, um, when they're diagnosed, my, my good friend Blair Vining, for example, w-was diagnosed on the very first day that he had symptoms.

But when you sit in clinics with people who've been diagnosed with young onset bowel cancer, too often there's a story whereby they say, "You know, I've had symptoms for months," uh, and they just weren't picked up.

So often a third of people can be misdiagnosed with other conditions.

Uh, and we know from previous research as well that often as many, a-a-as few as one in ten people have had an internal examination to look for the bowel cancer in the first place.

So a simple physical examination.

So people can have symptoms of rectal bleeding or change in bowel habit, and, and sometimes aren't even having the proper physical examination done.

Yes.

Are these people waiting because we're not looking for bowel cancer in young people?

Yeah, well look, I think a, a number of people with bowel cancer, when they're diagnosed, my, my good friend Blair Vining, for example, w- was diagnosed on the very first day that he had symptoms.

But when you sit in clinics with people who've been diagnosed with young onset bowel cancer, too often there's a story whereby they say, "You know, I've had symptoms for months," uh, and they just weren't picked up.

So often a third of people can be misdiagnosed with other conditions.

Uh, and we know from previous research as well that often as many-- a-as few as one in ten people have had an internal examination to look for the bowel cancer in the first place.

So a simple physical examination.

So people can have symptoms of rectal bleeding or change in bowel habit, and, and sometimes aren't even having the proper physical examination done, and that means that people are being diagnosed at a very late stage.

Yes.

Now Jackson brings us My Dungeon Shook, Letter to My Nephew on the 100th Anniversary of the Emancipation by James Baldwin.

My Dungeon Shook.

I have begun this letter five times and torn it up five times.

I keep seeing your face, which is also the face of your father and my brother.

Like him, you are tough, dark, vulnerable, moody, with a very definite tendency to sound truculent because you want no one to think that you are soft.

You may be like your grandfather in this, I don't know, but certainly both of you and your father resemble him very much physically.

Well, he is dead.

We know it's Hamilton, so can you take us back 10 years to when the show opened? What do you remember from the early days? How excited were you to play this prolific figure?

First of all, great to be with you guys.

It was exciting.

Everything that generates from world of lynn and tommy and me and like it's just we're we're all just like this band of creative cats that are just trying to make something cool the idea that uh the world would respond to the extent that they did was pretty uh exciting and also surprising to be in all of the conversations all at once because at the end of the day We were still performing for 1,400 people a night, and it was still something that was just happening in our building.

The fact that it's 10 years on and it's still moving people, people still responding to it, the show's still sold out.

Can you tell us, like, the story about how you got this role? How were you approached?

Michael Patrick King called me and asked if I would be interested.

You know, Michael Patrick King is a genius.

We know it's Hamilton, so can you take us back 10 years to when the show opened? What do you remember from the early days? How excited were you to play this prolific figure?

First of all, great to be with you guys.

It was exciting.

Everything that generates from world of lynn and tommy and me and like it's just we're we're all just like this band of creative cats that are just trying to make something cool the idea that uh the world would respond to the extent that they did was pretty uh exciting and also surprising to be in all of the conversations all at once because at the end of the day we were still performing for 1400 people a night and it was still something that was just happening in you know in our building the fact that it's 10 years on and now and and it's still moving people people still responding to it shows still sold out

Can you tell us, like, the story about how you got this role? How were you approached?

Michael Patrick King called me and asked if I would be interested.

You know, Michael Patrick King is a genius.

The man has created some of the most memorable television moments of my lifetime.