people

don't want other people to feel pity for them because of course you want to be seen as strong and capable and like being able to hold up your responsibilities and all of this.

And that makes so much sense.

So here's where self-compassion really is different.

So if you think about self-pity, And if you have self-pity, what you're telling yourself is basically the story of poor me.

A lot of people with chronic pain, they actually feel very isolated because they don't know other people who have the same illness.

So it makes total sense that the brain would go like, yeah, that's just you.

With this idea of self-compassion and mindfulness, how are you seeing it in your work transform people's experience of pain? And you too, Courtney, because this is your area of research too.