I mean, I understand what you were saying, that criminals could then, when they pass away, donate their body to these medical schools, and that was a law, but why weren't, you know, maybe, should I say regular people, you know, like the people that were not criminals, how come they just couldn't donate their bodies, you know, to science when they passed away then?

Well, the criminals weren't donating.

It was allowed, like, against their will, and, and they did not want it.

It was, um, akin to hanging from a gibbet, which is like you hang a body from a cage publicly, a practice that went on in Europe for a long, long time.

It was a way of shaming.

So for example, now this is not a-- This is a grave robber, but also a murderer.

So, uh, the most famous grave, uh, like, body snatcher people were actually two mu- murderers.

Okay, so how did the body snatchers go about stealing bodies? Was it really they just went to a graveyard, and they had, you know, a shovel, and they just spent that time digging them up? How'd they do that?