But let's start from the beginning.

Yeah, well, I would say your grandfather was not that untypical of his day, especially if he grew up in a city at the end of the 19th century or early 20th century with all the coal smoke and tall buildings, the darkness.

And add on that the malnutrition and the specific malnutrition of lack of vitamins in typical diets, it wouldn't be a surprise that certainly as a child, he would have bow legs.

Many children grow out of it, but many don't.

And so in that generation, it wouldn't be unusual at all.

In fact, in doing this research, going back and reading 19th century newspapers and magazines, just how common it was and how frequently it's just kind of everybody gets it that this is going on.

And so you can make statements about how it's impossible as bathing suits become a thing at the end of the 19th and early 20th century.

Trick question.

Yeah, right.

And it's a wonderful paradox.

And it's all what it points to.

Well, let me back up as a historian.

When I first started doing this research, everything I read from the early 20th century and the 19th century, it was all about... how African Americans, they didn't have vitamin D as a concept yet, and they didn't really know the mechanism, but they understood that tropical peoples were meant to live in the tropics, and by moving into the north, they were going to be undercutting their health.

So there was this understanding.

And so I was expecting to find just wealth of data showing that indeed anybody who has got dark skin moving into the northern zone is going to have more is more likely to have rickets.

And the research, which is a little equivocal about, you know, what happens when you give people lots of vitamin D, you know.

And I guess you can just take those systems, teach it to someone

else, get yourself out of the company, pass the systems on to your kids.

Yep, that's the goal.

Trying to get myself Less and less in the work and more, you know, working on the business and then slowly but surely transition the kids or somebody I can trust into the more of the day to day grind.

And I can do more of the legacy building.

Cool.

Who's your coaches, by the way? James.

So how did this client come about and then how long have you been on the site? You said you started in the bathroom.

my hand

that I do work for Manly? You might have to, yeah.

Disappointing for Manly, but it was a great contest.

Obviously, I was out there.

It was just end-to-end stuff, and nail-biting went down in Golden Point.

And Manly will be filthy with themselves because they had opportunities.

They scored

They scored

Mm.

Um, or, uh, if it, there was a realignment of how the, the, the CPSU related to the Labor Party.

Um, it is formally true that the CPSU technically opposes AUKUS.

Um, when I was on the governing council, I moved an anti-AUKUS motion, which I had to wrangle the leadership to accept, but they did.

Uh, and part of that was to direct all ALP delegations to vote against AUKUS, uh, in Labor Party conferences.

Now, I h- again, have very little visibility over whether they actually do that, um, unfortunately.

It, I suspect they do.

Mm.