Just, just give us a thumbnail sketch.

Well, uh, knew a lot of companies, knew-- worked with or for over a dozen of Automotive Hall of Fame members.

Um, they all taught me things.

Thousands of engineers and others in the industry.

And you learn by working at different companies.

You mentioned some of the companies, supplier companies.

I've been on both ends, being in, in the OE and then being a supplier to the OEs.

What do you recommend that the leaders of these companies do now to improve their fortunes?