And like, what did you notice when you were doing the pivot? What did you notice that was radically different from the way that you were leading when you were in that management position to the skills that you learned after getting your master's?

So when I decided to go back to school, I really-- I didn't know.

It kind of sounded crazy, like I'm gonna learn, I'm gonna go to school to learn about leadership skills.

Is that even really a thing? I didn't know.

I, I read up on it.

Obviously, I've read a whole bunch of books, and I'd kind of studied it on my own here and there.

So going back to school, which obviously isn't a cheap decision, while I was also about to be a father at, at the same time-

Yeah