Chris, when did you start using it?

Yeah, it's interesting.

I mean, there's a little bit of a preamble here you guys are giving me You know, flashbacks, I'm closer to training than both of you guys are, but had similar experiences there.

We would have, we used to call it the washout train, right? And it'd be folks who go back to the OR every other day until cultures were negative.

And, you know, you're hoping to get these folks along on antibiotics and form some stage for limb salvage.

I did my fellowship in Charlotte and, you know, it's a tertiary referral center for diabetic foot infection.

And when we...

Chris, what do you think?