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I mean, government provides for people to have justice in their everyday life and for people to feel safe, and when you have a power like this that's just absolutely unlimited, we have to introduce some kind of a check and a balance.

When you look all through every system of government, we have checks and we have balances.

The only one that doesn't in our state government is the power to pardon, and we really saw seven years ago exactly how badly that power can be used.

And so in seeing this abuse of power, um, it's just something that I couldn't let go of.

And, and, you know, I, I have a friend up here who had an employee who was raped and murdered, and then her... that, that...

the person that did it was pardoned.

Mm-hmm.

Why? Why does this particular issue strike you so deeply?

You know, it, it's an issue that's just fundamental to government.

I mean, government provides for people to have justice in their everyday life and for people to feel safe, and when you have a power like this that's just absolutely unlimited, we have to introduce some kind of a check and a balance.

When you look all through every system of government, we have checks and we have balances.

The only one that doesn't in our state government is the power to pardon, and we really saw seven years ago exactly how badly that power can be used.

And so in seeing this abuse of power, um, it's just something that I couldn't let go of.

And, and, you know, I, I have a friend up here who had an employee who was raped and murdered, and then, uh, the, the person that did it was pardoned.

Mm-hmm.

Anyway, bonding over his mother being my math teacher out of the way, I wanted to understand what led Senator McDaniel to advocate for the removal and replacement of Jefferson Davis.

Well, you know, it's interesting kind of the evolution that life takes you through with these things.

You know, and certainly I think a lot of us have changed opinions or thoughts through the years.

You know, in my undergrad years, I attended the Citadel down in South Carolina, which was a wonderful place to go to school.

But still in the late 90s, we took a class called The War for Southern Independence.

You know, and so as you evolve with thoughts in life, you really begin to think about, you know, things that hold deeper meaning.

So, for example, statues in a rotunda.

But the conversations about Brashear or anyone else replacing the void where Jefferson Davis once stood stalled out, not just because the political will wasn't there, but because the Capitol isn't either.

Oh, yeah.

Don't tell everything you know.

So.

All right.

So let me back up.

When I was in 1980.

No, I'm kidding.

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