It's insane.

Well, I told somebody the other day, you never turn a gig down.

We had the chance to open for Merle at a college.

I had gone to see Merle in concert and he canceled that night.

And I said, I'll never see Merle Haggard.

I'll never get to see him.

I was so disappointed.

Yeah, it's

yeah we're going to come back to the show in a minute I want to follow up with a question on the music what makes you love country music so much

You know, I think it's just emotion, I believe.

Some people love to feel happy all the time.

Some people love to feel sad.

And country music does all of that.

It's one of those types of music that a song can literally... bring you to tears if you listen to the story and country music is the best at that and it's the regular everyday working class people's music and i grew up in that kind of family and still i'm a working guy and can relate to that so i think that's what it is it's just hard to beat traditional country music to me for emotion i don't know if you feel that way yeah and bluegrass too traditional bluegrass especially as

It does eliminate that part of the singing together, the

playing.

[upbeat country music]

You ask me if I'm happy.

If I have peace of mind.

If I'm worried about tomorrow.

When I reach my journey's end.

Hey, I'm satisfied with my Jesus.

When He knocks, I'm gonna let Him in.

Mm-hmm.

What was the, the problem with it?

I tore my medial meniscus, so in my right knee.

The scan showed the tear, so the, the scan was about a month ago, but for various different reasons, and I'm very lucky I've got private health through work, so I'm very lucky the process has been really quick.

I had a period of time from the scan to the operation a- and that was in the main 'cause I had things, I had live things I, I wanted to do [chuckles] before the operation.

Um, and the, the plan with the surgery was they were going to trim the meniscus.

So that was the, that was the plan.

So going down for surgery, that, that was, that was what we were all led to believe.

But do you think, as masters athletes, are we sometimes guilty of ignoring the limits of the body in the process of redefining what's possible as an older athlete?