What does it feel like to have a 13-year head start?

[laughs] Well, Ed, yeah, the party, the party is uh jam-packed now with, with so much funding and, and folks who are, who are uh um who are ju-jumping into it.

Listen, I think, I think it's, it's um...

I am so thrilled.

I mean, it's just incredible.

I mean, I'm, I'm, I am very excited and optimistic about you know what, what the future will be with robotics and how, how in particular it makes us all focus on the first principles here.

The first principles of artificial intelligence, the first principles of how do you actually build an economy and, and create this incredible growth and, and prosperity you know for the world.

How real is it? And then about all these new, um, competitors to NVIDIA coming to market, when they'll land and, and what impact they'll have.

Hmm.

Not everybody, but particularly the people that were super expert at Objective C, they really did not want a new thing to come onto the scene because they were experts.

They, they really understood how to use the existing tools.

Uh, people came to them.

They had built their careers as being the guru, and so getting reset back to the same starting point as everybody else, being a Swift newbie, was not something that they wanted.

And, um, on the flip side, people coming to Apple platforms for the first time, or people that had been in for six months or something like that, are like: "Oh, thank goodness, now I can actually do way more.

It's so much easier.

Mm.

Patching, pipelines, yeah.

...

I know all this stuff.

Yeah.

It's, it's stateful.

And so now you don't get horizontal auto-scaling.

You don't get (laughs) stateless, uh, elasticity.

Mm-hmm.