I mean, almost anybody that you talk to who's achieved s- major success in any area will tell you that it sucks sometimes, so I'm glad you're saying that.

Oh my God, 100%.

And like, it wasn't until, like, kind of recently for me that, uh, I realized, like, it's just a grind.

Like, you just have to go, and then you get these little wins along the way, and they, they put massive wins in- into your sail, you know what I mean? And you keep, you keep staying the course, and, and the thing gets bigger, bigger, and bigger, and bigger.

Um, but I mean, that's part of the reason why Notaway had a, a 10-year hiatus.

Like, I put out five songs.

I was a, a bit delusional in my expectation of what it would, what they would do.

Chris, what do you think music has taught you about yourself that nothing else could have?