What are your thoughts on that? How we just in terms of some of the drills that you see come across being able to listen to all these NHL coaches that come through and drop drills? Are you seeing a lot of drills and hearing a lot of them talking about how important decision making is rather than just like put cones out there and skate around them and do mindless type work?

Without a doubt, the game is chaotic and your practices should look chaotic.

It's OK.

And yeah, I think like decision making is critical.

And even for saving time on the ice, like setting up a bunch of cones and, you know, apparatuses and putting them in the right spot, like, yeah.

Just for that alone, I think we have moved away from it a lot.

There's certain scenarios where it makes sense to have a cone here or there, and there's still a lot of decisions within it.

I have to imagine that so many of the drills that are drawn up on your site have some sort of game aspect to it.

It is.

Um, and that's a lot for a 17, 18-year-old kid, uh, to kind of d- have to think about because you're thinking about this is almost, not, I don't wanna say generational wealth, but it does put you onto the right path to get to generational wealth, right? Um, so it, I think it's important for- You know, a guy like that to really find his, his tribe, right, his people of, uh, of people that he trusts.

And so...

And that comes down to having a good coach, right? That, that's what Freddie Jay was for me.

And to your point, when you have guys, uh, that are older guys that kinda pass it down, that's what Tyrone Wheatley was for me.

That's what Team B- Tim Biaka Batuga was for me.

And then that's what I was for A-Train, you know? And so you kinda have to have that perspective in order for you to kinda, to, to get through.

Entire field.

Just thoughts on, like, how much time should we be spending to create a practice?

practice?Yeah, you know, like, every single team and situation's different.

Like, I could have a U12 practice that is great for my team, but not great for another U12 team, you know? And so, uh, it's hard to, like, kind of put a time on it.

I think the key to practice is building connections.

You gotta be able to connect to your team, and you gotta be able to build the practice to connect to your team's game and what you're trying to improve on.

So, I think instead of starting, like, you never want practice to feel like five random drills thrown together, right? You wanna start with the objective.

What do, what does my team need to work on? Where are they at in their development? Um, where are we at in our season goals? And kinda defining, like, what the objective is, and then building the practice kind of starting backwards, stripping it down and building it up.

... really quickly, like how, how would you go about doing that? Like, what, what would you, be your process to tell those parents, like, "This is, this is why we do these drills"?

... of how sometimes that hinders us.

And, and it, it's a battle.

You know, we had this talk before we got on here similar to this of me being so competitive at a young age, I wasn't willing to network or, or be cool with certain individuals just because of my competitive nature within the game.

And we both said this, like as you get older, as a man, you know, 40, whatever we about to turn, it's like you start understanding the business side of life.

Yeah

... wanting to do that things.

It's not easy, um, dedicating 12, 13 hours of your life to other people.

You know, and, and we could get into that a little bit of the father side of you're pouring into so many kids that you miss your kid at times, and, and that's something that, that don't get talked about a lot.

How do you decide when the dishes are ready? Is this y- your decision, Rodolfo's decision, a, a bit between the two?

I mean, Rodolfo always has the last say, [laughs] unfortunately.

But I think, like, we work, like, always on a lot of things together.

And alongside that, like tasting, maybe like I'll sh- show him a couple things that, like, he, he'll guide me through it.

Maybe he'll say may- maybe it needs, like, maybe more acidity or, like, something is missing, and, like, kinda guide me through that.

And like he said, we'll taste, like, too many times, I think, sometimes, that it's just... [laughs]

And is this something that someone who comes here, they find it absolutely delicious, they really want to recreate it at home, [laughs] is that possible or impossible?

Um, I think no, unfortunately.

... don't tell you as much.

Yes.

Usually it's your boy that you kinda have to pull things out of, but I had a boy who, um, was a talker.

So that was great.

And then your personality was so different than Ashley's personality, and so that's just one of those things as a mom that you get to figure out, and have so much fun figuring it out, [laughs] and then who to talk t- how to talk to each one of 'em.

So, um, I love that.

I-

Mm.