Mm-hmm.

That was how you lost, or you tapped them out and knocked them out to win.

And I'd just watched this fight.

I was in the dressing room and I was watching it on the, on the TV, and there was a, a Carlos Pareira, who's a big Brazilian, and he fought this Russian, and the fight went for 30 minutes.

And honestly, Carlos beat the living hell out of him, and when the Russian came back into my dressing room, it looked like he'd been hit by a truck.

You know, the, the eyes were closed, the head was swollen.

And I said to my coach, Bill Turner, and, uh, Bill Turner is a-another story, but he was my wrestling coach.

To play golf and surf