How do you create change? a culture and a space where people are able to stretch and not feel threatened or not feel resistant or even just push themselves without that consequence that what they manage today isn't going to all fall apart.

So I think there's a couple of tracks with this and I'll start with the last thing you said in terms of the thing that you manage is not going to fall apart.

What we try to tell people in many situations, it will fall apart.

You have to realize if you have something, a process that takes you three months to do today, and we're going to turn it into an hour, you very quickly start to say, okay, what do I do now? What is my job? Like that becomes very concerning to people because obviously you can't reduce that much time out of a process without having some disruption in labor.

And so we spent a lot of time focusing on what is the value that you as an individual bring to the organization? And so I try to tell people, your job is to bring value.

Your job is not to be this system admin or to be this person role that you've been doing for the last five years, your talents are so much higher than the box that you've put yourself into.

And I think if people can continue to produce value, they're going to have successful careers.

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