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Chris Cleveland

Oct 16, 2026

12:30
Yeah
12:30
... you've got a bureaucracy which is struggling to implement requirements which are complex.
12:35
And if the legislature would just say, "Look, it's worth it to, to set aside some of this complexity, strip it down, you know, these are the simple three things that somebody has to do to get Medicaid," then the entire chain of people involved in can start operating more efficiently.
12:54
But you gotta have a clear idea of how to build systems like that, and you have to have somebody in the legislature who understands that complexity is the enemy.
13:04
That, that, that, that when you light- write laws in a certain way that makes it hard to implement them, you're gonna get the problems that we've got in FS- FSSA right now.

31 MINS LATER

44:41
Mm-hmm.
44:41
But, but that comes from a place of being pro- pro-free markets, being pro the idea that individuals should be able to trade freely with one another, um, absent of deception.
44:55
Because when, whe- a- and absent of coercion.

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