Right,

exactly.

And I get that.

I understand it.

That one's interesting to me.

I will just give a quick update.

It sounds like they think he's going to probably miss another week.

Where's this pass rush at for Kansas City? How much has Spaggs had to go into the bag and break out the pressure packages, or are they having success just kind of heating up opposing quarterbacks thus far this season organically with their front?

Mm

... you know, his best football.

The issue is everybody's kind of seeing this as a continuation of last year.

If you skip 25 and Lenoir Sellars is playing better than anybody in the country or as well as anybody in the country in 2024, and then you skip ahead to 2026 and he has a bad game or a subpar game, people go, "All right, he had a bad game." The issue is individually he wasn't good enough last year, but also it's ver- we have to point out, to be fair, nothing went right [laughs] offensively last year other than South Carolina was s- somehow one of the more explosive teams in the country.

That was one of the only ways they could score though, right? It was on explosive plays.

Lenoir's didn't have a complimentary run game.

He didn't have a strong offensive line.

What is the mindset behind, uh, grip it and rip it? I don't know how you get him to that point mentally if it's not the check downs, the easy throws, the running him directly to be able to get him over the top.

Yeah, we love data centers here.

No, it's, listen, we've invited the data centers, the co-locators, the utility companies, the construction, the electricians that are working on these sites.

I mean, the workforce developers, everybody that's in the system.

We want them at the table and we want to provide the facts.

We're not making a decision at the end of the day that a data center is right for your community.

Your community needs to make that decision.

But we do have, as part of this effort, a new program that we've called the Data Center Ready Community Initiative, which is basically a checklist.

I'm also curious, Chris, what have you learned since you all have been taking interest in this that maybe you didn't know about data centers? Come on, come clean.

Is that a real conversation? Are there safeguards being put in place? What are you hearing?

As Amode said this week in his essay, saying that in six months' time, the possibility exists that AI could get smart enough to shut down the internet all on its own.

Certainly, that's quite alarming to hear him say that, the CEO of Anthropic.

But banks have had security threats for centuries and they have to spend tremendous amounts of resources and more resources increasing that security.

And frankly, on a personal level, I know it's been like 25 years, but I'm still amazed that internet banking works and it hasn't been destroyed and it's a functioning system.

I don't know, hide cash at home?

Right.

Well, the risk of hiding cash at home is it doesn't earn any interest.

So the Colts better be on top of it because if Spaggs knows that you have a weakness, he's going to come after you.

And it's crazy because you go back and watch the Denver game, the first flipping snap Spaggs sends two corners on a blitz and you're just sitting there going, that's the way this game is going to go.

Okay.

Uh, yeah.

And you look at, you look at what he did last week and you look at what spags did last week and he generated pressure and he generated pressure sending for most of the time.

It wasn't that he was blitzing and trying to generate pressure that way.

He usually was getting there with four and there were some times where they even got pressure with three.

I think of all the matchups, just the coaching, these guys against each other, I think is the most interesting aspect to me.

um i so my first question would be so ultimately this sprang out of a need that you saw in your own business where you uh ultimately hired the developer and built out your website so let like can you dig a little bit more into that like what was the need and then how was that resolved by the website that you built

Yeah, it was kind of an unknown to me that it was even a need.

I didn't realize that.

We had stockpiled so many properties over the five-year period from starting because you buy a property, you sell it on terms, and 25% of the time it comes back to you through a forfeiture, and so then you get it back.

And then your inventory continues to grow, plus you're buying properties at the same time.

And at that point, we had actually brought on some private capital.

So we were able to scale up pretty large with other people's money, which was super helpful.

And then what was life like on the other side of problem addressing?

Is he accurate? Is he not accurate? When is he accurate? Where is he accurate, et cetera? What did you learn? Yeah, so,

I mean, a few different things, guys.

And the premise of it was, if anybody's out there saying, Lenoris is just spraying the ball all over the place, he's not accurate, there's been some of that.

Maybe fringe, right? But there's some of that out there.

And tried to kind of dig in, other than the eye test, like, what do the statistics and analytics say? And Clark Brooks of OM3 and SEC StatCat, who does a great job of tracking all that, has charted the first couple games, which is all we have this season.

And Lenora Sellers, in terms of starting quarterbacks in the SEC, is second right behind Arch Manning of Texas in the lowest uncatchable ball rate in the SEC, about 2.2%.

And I think you need some context even in that, right? One of our members pointed out, I thought made a great point, You know, you can throw an uncatchable ball.

What about this group again, aside from Camario Taylor, what has caught your attention? What is a challenge? What else would be a challenge this weekend for South Carolina on either side of the football?

Do they?

they?Little bit, man.

Little bit.

And, and I think coming from, um, a couple different angles on that, you know, one, one angle was, look, this is not the first time that South Carolina football has beaten an overmatched opponent.

Okay? And brought up a couple examples of that.

One was the 2019 South Carolina team that destroyed a Charleston Southern team that came in here, um, what, 70 to 10 or something like that.

They hung 70 on them.

That's different.

I never like to see when people are, you know, navigating away from the career.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, I'm happy to share a bit of my own experience in terms of like where I took things as an IC and where I started to craft my own roles internally.

I was quite fortunate.

I joined Slack reasonably early on.

I was an individual contributor there and actually worked with a career coach because I did.

How do I get there? Like, what is even available? And then you're like, it's overwhelming, so.

Were you writing and no one was reading? It was on a regular blog spot, maybe? You were covering the program.

I was following the program.

I was a student when Steve Spurrier's first game was at South Carolina.

And, y'all, I mean, the anticipation was off the charts on that one.

You know, you had UCF coming in.

you had Spurrier, you had the opening touchdown on a long pass to Noah Whiteside, not only heightened things, that was just, this is the new reality, you know, and then South Carolina ends up kind of, they won, but they ended up scuffling and it took a while to get going, you know? So, um, I'd say this is, this is up there, man.

Um, You know, I think some of the spurrier seasons in South Carolina really got rolling.

I mean, it's night and day to me.

That'll be fun." And we sort of perhaps saw that, and then that's what brought us back to it again.

It is very different from riding in a, a single bike.

Uh, in fact, when we get off the tan...

If I do get on Nikki's bike or whatever, it feels really skittish.

Riding a, a tandem feels a bit like driving an HGV.

The turning circle's much longer, takes longer to brake.

It takes longer to get going, or it does for us anyway.

We had once on another little water taxi thing in Northern Spain, we sort of got her on, we nearly lost her in the water, but on the way back out, all the other passengers just carried our panniers off for us while we got Edith off.

What impresses you the most about that group?

I think they're just, it's a really mature group.

You know, you can't, you can't play power for football.

It's hard to play college football, right.

In general, as a true freshman, but especially, you know, power for football.

And I think those, those guys, I mean, the way Shane Beamers put it is not typical freshmen, you know, and that's kind of what you've got to have just kind of all those traits and into this package that makes you not a typical freshman.

And even more impressive, I think with, with Gray and Patterson, it's the fact those guys didn't go through spring ball, you know, like they didn't have that and they've still been able to acclimate very quickly.

Does that stick out to you about this South Carolina roster as compared to years past when we're kind of looking at, you know, what are the issues that are quote-unquote issues that we're discussing during the preseason as opposed to not just the Shane Beamer era, but if you look over the past 20 years, kind of where those conversations have been?

So which of those position groups that has the depth that they're working through, which one are you the most focused on going into Saturday's second scrimmage of the preseason and why?

Yeah, it's interesting.

Interesting question, man, because when Beamer was asked about this yesterday, Tuesday, during his presser about like trying to find some answers in some of these position battles, he listed a bunch of them.

And honestly, one that's been brought up in the past, I don't think he brought up like maybe he brought it up later, like the third corner.

Right.

There are some positions where it's like, how many guys do we feel comfortable playing it in a game at a position that on paper is pretty loaded up? Defensive tackle is a great example of that, right? D-tackle, you've got a mix of like three seniors, right? whether it's returning guys or transfers like Kelby Collins and Tomey, and then you've got Gabriel Brown-Lodindi in there.

You've got a guy like Jordan Thomas who's come on and had a really good preseason camp as a transfer.

But it seems like they're finding more answers and answering more questions in a better manner than maybe I had anticipated.

Yes.

So, you know, I mean, what can you say about that? That's phenomenal.

And a great description of Mo Brown, like absolutely no regard for human life, including his own when he's playing football, which is phenomenal.

Here's the thing about the freaks list.

Wes and I were talking about this a little bit yesterday.

I think what Feldman, and I'm not trying to speak for him, I think this list is meant to be, here's some guys that are freaks, meaning normally...

They're big and fast, like, at the same time.

What more have you learned about Anthony Addison? Obviously, with Stewart's health being a concern here, it seems like his reps are just going to continue to go up.

Sh- should we be concerned about economic growth when the unemployment rate is down but fewer people are working?

Yeah, that's a good question.

Well, everyone in the country is getting older, and w- every month we get more and more boomers retiring.

And on the flip side, we have less and less young people coming into adulthood, nor do we have more immigrants coming to replace the boomers who are retiring.

So the working age population is not growing as fast as it otherwise would.

So the whole economy is not growing that quickly.

Now, this does mean those who are actively looking for work are at a historically healthy level.

Before I let you go, the jobs report, how does that impact the, uh, Federal Reserve's decision on whether to raise interest rates, i- or interest rates, and what do you think they're gonna do?

I don't know.

No, I always miss the pre- presentation of a golf course.

When you look over it, when you cut greens on a Saturday morning, and you're looking over the golf course and the bunkers are looking schmick, and everything's cut and looking fantastic, that's something I do miss.

That on a Saturday morning, just knowing we've done, done a fantastic job that week to present the best course we can.

I don't know if you look back at it very often, but I certainly look back at it, um, and use them as reference points from time to time, some of the works we did.

Oh, I, I definitely do.

I still show our apprentices at work, uh, old photos of the golf course, 'cause you used to take a lot of photos, which was fantastic.

And I've still got the USB stick that showed the old fairways, and then the bunkers we built, and the way we built them, and... 'Cause they don't get to see that sort of stuff working for the gardens.

And I

have about 20 left.

So if you really need to get one, drop me a note on Facebook and I will make sure that one gets to you.

I don't need 21 sets.

I don't.

The biggest difference between regular Dungeons & Dragons, which I still write for, Legendary Adventure, which not so much because there aren't quite enough people playing it to make it lucrative, although that maybe will change in the future, we'll see, is that Legendary Adventure is more about discovery and Dungeons & Dragons is more about combat.

That doesn't make either one strictly about one or the other.

So Chris, what's one of you have many products and you have quite a few products just out in the last few years, but what's one product you'd like to plug today?

What exactly would that do to our economy? What would that do to the price of gas? Would the tolls offset the price rise at all?

Uh, well the tolls would come, uh, through the Treasury.

It wouldn't come to the gas stations or to people's, uh, wallets.

Uh, what it would do is it, it, you know, holding everything equal, we're still throwing 20% of oil is coming through the strait.

Uh, that would lead to, you know, a 2 to 3% increase in the price of gasoline if everything passed through to the consumer.

Um, I mean, it's not like it would destroy commerce in the area, but it certainly would increase costs.

Right

... on the oceans, and that will increase costs not just through the Strait of Hormuz, but the Bab el-Mandeb in the Red, the Red Sea, or over by Singapore and other various straits and narrow areas.

What does that metaphor teach leaders or what could it teach us about transformations?

Yeah.

So I'm a proud gardener.

You know, I'm part of a community garden.

I live near Georgetown in D.C., so I live in a condo.

So we have these plots and mine is large.

It's 60 by 20.

Have you seen that as well?

Cool

thing that's going to happen tonight at 8 o'clock.

Third-generation players.

Oh, man.

That's awesome.

As we think about it, we don't know if we've ever had that before.

But a guy that was a couple years younger than me in high school, he went to Wimbledon High School, Brian Townsend.

That's why I know you really appreciate it.

you doing your top five or are you back on Easy Rider? Doing my top five, which is from

that movie.

so uh it came out and uh came out in the late 60s i believe it was 69 if memory served me correctly and i always thought it was an important movie in terms of needle drops and just the use of music and film because most of the songs in that movie whether it was exclusive or not came from dennis hopper's record collection and he was the director And he was born to be wild in one of the opening scenes within the first 10 minutes of the movie where he, you know, Peter Fonda throws the watch onto the ground and they take off on the motorcycles and born to be wild kicks in.

And it shows all those scenes of them riding their bikes across the country and stuff.

And it's kind of a little passe now because it's become such a part of life.

you know, the American lexicon, but like at the time, like that, that had to be like that, that just thinking within the context of the time, how important that scene was to movies and what directors would do with film, especially the new Hollywood in the seventies.

I think that's really where you start to see the start of that or is one of the films where you start to see the start of that.

Christopher Clark, what's it going to be?

And what about like superintendents, the senior management, any

changes there? Not really.

And ironically enough, the one district that we've already seen a directorship change in this one is Thames Valley, which is actually one of the school boards that is already under supervision.

And the person that they appointed to as their new CEO, former director, is not some business magnate.

business administration person from what I can tell.

It would actually be somebody who would be a traditional director who came up through the education ranks and all that.

So ultimately, I mean, the proof will be in the pudding in terms of who ends up getting hired into these positions.

How can people learn more about policy and life and education from a teacher's perspective? I'm suggesting one would be osstf.on.ca.

I'm in

San Diego, so I wasn't really like, you know, I'm not out there meeting with all these folks.

But he's coming and telling me, you know, there's all this cool, exciting tech.

You know, there's not so much tech for land specifically.

And, you know, these guys have kind of said, hey, why don't you, you know, why don't you look at doing a prop tech company in land? Like get pretty niche and do something in land.

And so, you know, finally, we have a couple of conversations about it.

And he's like, hey, I feel like we've just been flipping land for so long and just so myopically focused on land.

So tell me, what problem is it solving?

Was the conflict maybe contained enough, if that's the case, that there is maybe a ceiling to what these numbers might look like? Or has the damage internally already been done?

uh well first off uh predicting anything that's happening on the street of her moves is almost a fool's errand for anybody else tremendous uncertainty but we could take some hypotheticals first off absolutely the oil prices the inner prices are what's driving this and what we see on the ground with gas prices and oil prices is they've leveled off substantially Now, the inflation numbers we're seeing, they have a reference point for the middle of May or the average of May.

And what we've been seeing for the past few weeks is gas prices have been coming down.

But I wouldn't hold on to our seats too quickly because they're still far higher than they were from before the war.

And so now that we're seeing more and more of this sustained really spikes, especially as far as PPI is concerned, at what point does this stop really looking volatile and start to look more like a sustained trend?

That's a good question.

Last month we saw PPI go higher than we'd seen in a while.

And it is a very volatile series.

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So we switched venues a little bit, but trust me, this is the same conversation, uh, and interview.

Uh, Chris Clark is on the other side of this.

I was wondering, in your sport, non-traditional obviously, if you would get bumps every four years from Olympic coverage, because other than searching for it, and you can see anything, uh, on YouTube and the web, uh, from a television traditional coverage standpoint, the only time you would get coverage would be in the Olympics.

Did you ever get bumps every four years from athletes saying, "Hey, I wanna do this"? You would get a handful here and there.

But God, I wish there was.

As we, we had talked about this, uh, before, and it, it, the only bumps ever come from those difference makers that show up in your program, and how, again, every sport is, it's exactly like that.

Yeah.