Mm-hmm.

It's not medical advice.

Um, but in terms of how it's changed, you know, uh, actual aesthetic clinics, um, yeah, like sometimes there's, um, trends and people will kind of get influenced or ideas, um, from things that they see, um, from these people, and they will, you know, seek out an expert in real life to actually, you know, see it to fruition.

Um, and that's fine.

I don't see that as being any sort of different than, um, 10 years ago, seeing someone on TV that you're like, "Oh," like, "The, her breasts look really good.

Like, how can I get that?"

Can you talk about, uh, that philosophy and the emotional meaning of your work?

If you're trying to describe kind of, like, how aesthetic and functional treatments can kinda transcend beyond just sort of the perception of, like, vanity and this deeper, you know, aspect, I think there's a lot there.

Mm-hmm.

Um, and so when you go through it, you relive that.

Um, and so I think a lot of it is having to sort of rewire that experience.

Um, I remember reading something, um, from this psychologist I thought that really resonated with me a lot with my work because, because of what we're talking about right now, um, where people oftentimes, especially in the times that we're in right now and all the geopolitical stuff and just how stressed we are as individuals with everything, that certain experiences that we go through creates so much overstimulation for us.

Right.

And so this will get, I'll get into that as well.

And so Wholetox is basically utilizing neuromodulators like Botox, Xeomin, Jeaveau, et cetera, um, to inject into the internal sphincter and the external sphincter.

The internal sphincter is what we call smooth involuntary muscle, so it's not a muscle you have active control over.

Yeah, and I'm curious to know, similar to Botox that you put elsewhere in your body, when the penis is flaccid, does it look fuller?

So it does potentially have that aesthetic effect of relaxing the penis a bit more and therefore it could look a little bit fuller or longer when it's in its flaccid state because it's not able to fully retract is really what it comes down to.

I think that the aesthetic effect is very variable, whereas the functional effect is very reliable.

So I really see everyone have a really nice response to the functional component to it.

As for the aesthetic effect, I think it's so multifactorial because that retraction is dependent on your stress levels, on the temperature outside, what you're wearing in terms of clothing.

So depending on how guys kind of perceive themselves in that way, they may not really fully appreciate that result.

So I try not to market it that way because I feel like I can for some people can feel a bit disingenuous and I never really want that to be the case.

Yeah, you're kind of just