Okay, let's talk about growing up in, uh, Columbus, Ohio.

Okay.

So Columbus, Ohio, is a beautiful town.

It's, uh, a cow town is what they call it, but, uh, it's mostly city now, so that's good.

But, um, I, uh, started off in, um, elementary school here and, um, was learning how to be a Cub Scout and a Boy Scout, serving other people.

And so all my life I've sort of done service.

Um, served as a, as a Boy Scout and then went as a firefighter, learned how to be a firefighter then from in my junior year and high, and senior year of high school.

Yep.