I mean, had she been struck off, that would have created a fair amount of PR and prevented a lot of her scams from happening.

from taking people's money.

Well, the assurance was given in writing in June 2019 that they were acting and that there was going to be an intervention, not an investigation, an intervention.

Here we are seven years later and the emails are still coming to the people about their asset protection scheme.

If you look at the judgment of Justice Jackman in the penalty case brought by the ACCC, there was an attempt to what Justice Jackman described as further mislead people with a supposed remediation program.

There is no way that you can fix the system that she developed as against her claims.

And I find it absurd... ridiculous that the Law Society of New South Wales and the Legal Services Commissioner of New South Wales has known since December 30th, 2022, that property developers continue to market and sell this asset protection scheme after the ACCC commenced proceedings.

Legal advice, can we call

Okay.

I always looked at me serving in my local church as one of the highest honors.

Wow.

So it wasn't like I'm just playing at the church and I'm just this at the church.

But then when I get in and read it with 50,000 people, then I become something else and I'm, oh, you're going to really hear me play.

No, if it's 50, I'm going to play.

I'm going to be prepared.

Yeah.