He wasn't that guy.

Yeah, absolutely.

And that more and more, like you said, is becoming a thing.

But it's been a bit going on for a while, even in my own career.

If I look at, you know, when I fought Provodnikov, people like, who the hell is this guy? Came in nowhere and just got upset of the year.

And then I'm fighting Manny Pacquiao.

And then, you know, my profile grew tremendously and off of that.

Hey, so talking about route to market, Roach, ESAP, Pitbull, Cruz, what would you give that matchup in terms of a grade?

Any chance of that taking place, a letdown?

There's always a chance of that.

The psychology of a fighter and what they go through after a fight, while they're waiting for fights.

I've been there myself where I thought I was going to come right back, and then for whatever reason, dates keep getting pushed back.

Fights that are supposed to happen don't materialize.

But also, you've got to look at Lamont Roach.

from where he's come from and where he is now.

What stood out to you? Which guy really took your attention, Chris?

Shiraz, did he show you something that you needed to see from him, that you didn't know if he had in him after that Adamas

fight? 100%.

And I was very high on Shiraz at 60.

Before the Adamas fight, I was like, I think this guy's going to take over 160.

I mean, gigantic for the weight class, good fundamentals, good skills, good power, obviously.

And then the Adamas fight.

I thought he lost.

Like, especially when you feel still feel there's some gas left in the tank.

Interesting.

I think he, he is really...

I mean, he kicked the door open.

And, um, I was very high on Hamza at 160.

Um, I thought that he was gonna be the guy who was gonna take over the s- the, the division.

Um, when they announced that he was gonna fight Carlos Adames, I was like, "Whoa." Car- I, I, I rate Carlos Adames very high.

Um, I get pushback from a lot of people.

Do you think this is sustainable? Do you think this can work?

welcome into boxing scene today here at the pro box tv studios well at 147 what do we have a potential star in brian norman jr knocking out jin sasaki in round number five where does that leave us well boots ennis is leaving the welterweight division confirmed it on his instagram he is moving up to 154 pounds looking for big paydays big fights but does he have the physicality and the technique to be competitive in what might be boxing's deepest division to help me break it down the champ Chris Algieri he and I have in the discussion okay where do we start in a sense where the motivation to leave obviously big fights at 154 we talk about 47 it's storied it's historic but right now kind of a wasteland him moving up looking for the big fights how soon do it does he get them that's my first question does he jump out looking for a

title um That's really the question.

But even before that, I want to kind of talk about just the fact that he's moving up.

I'm torn.

Because I wanted him to go and unify the division.

I wanted that.

I saw, obviously, the talents there.

out of that.