But then also, can you really just... fire somebody like every two years? Didn't you guys just do this?

Oh, we've turned into the Italy of old, where Italy used to change government every six months.

Yeah, we've had like seven prime ministers in the last 10 years.

And when I was growing up, you know, Mrs. Thatcher was prime minister, what, 13 years? I mean, people used to hang around a lot.

But Brexit broke everything, broke everything in the same way that Trump kind of broke everything in the States and similar things have been happening across the world.

And yeah, so no, none of the traditional parties or neither, I should say, the traditional parties have been able to get a handle on it, really.

And the consequence of Brexit was, So a brief version of it would be the party that caused Brexit to happen, the Conservative Party, is seen as the single most effective and successful electoral machine in the world.

So the person who had been coronated could become a member of – this all happened in the last few weeks?

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the federal government really don't want you finding out what's been happening down there.

Isn't, as you say, Andy, very happy.

He absolutely did.

He walked out, unaided, to the surprise and against the advice of medical professionals everywhere, uh, of an interview with NBC News in this barn after the interviewer, Kristen Welker, challenged him to provide evidence that the current Californian elections and the 2020 general election were in any way stolen.

Let's be fair and take a psychologist's approach to this.

Yeah

And, uh, we- but we feel that all these- it checks all those boxes, and, uh, again, the board was very much supportive of this decision.

To me, what David's answer highlights for what Rayburn is, unique amongst cooperatives, is the close alignment of the G&T, Rayburn, with its members.

And so, you know, the- as David indicated, the, the people around the board room table that are making decisions for Rayburn are also the people that are paying the costs.

And so there's a strong alignment between the members' objectives and Rayburn spearheading what those objectives are and executing on those objectives.

So the strategy is really being set by- at the board table, and, and the people who are making this, the decisions are the ones that are, uh, also accountable for the results as well.

And so I think that's one thing that's very unique about Rayburn, and again, that's forged through a crisis.

You know, Uri showed how that leadership team, both the, the, you know, the, the members and the general managers of the members, working with David, working with stakeholders regionally and statewide, uh, at the legislature, that alignment then pays those dividends in terms of achieving business objectives in the right way.

Yeah.