What's your perspective on your time with TOWIE?

When I think of TOWIE, like, it's fond.

It's fond memories.

It was hard, Paul.

Like, I joined TV when there weren't a lot of rules, and there weren't all this, like, you know, like, there just...

It was different TV times, let's put it that way.

There was allowed to be little rascals.

Interesting.

You said your confidence is there.

Yeah, because I'd left school by then, you know, and then what happened was when I was at that school, so let's take it back to the 90s, no internet, we just had the magazines, the weekly magazines, right? And we had our popular ones here and I used to look at the models and I used to think, oh my God, like I used to pin everything on being a model because I think I'd love to be a model.

Imagine if I was a model, then everyone would think I was pretty.

You know, like that must have... been my thought pattern.

I just really wanted to be a model in the magazines.

And they used to run these competitions where you could enter.

And I used to ask, can I enter? And it was always like, no, because modeling had like quite a bad rap back in the 90s.

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