Why jerseys?

Oh, so funnily enough, I would say I'm short.

I'm probably average height.

But I was always intimidated by a gigantic Friesian cow and that big, lanky, huge-mouthed, big-bodied Friesian Holstein was always intimidating for me.

And when we actually started digging into the numbers, it worked so much better that a Jersey cow can convert grass better.

I can get paid better on the solids that she produces.

She's going to eat less.

So where's your main source of data? Is it the milking information or is it the genetics? I don't really understand.

But I think in municipal politics, you really have to sweep so much of that aside.

Yeah.

I don't carry a card to any party.

I specifically chose a role in politic- sorry, policy after my time with Pat McConnell, and that was when Rob and Doug were at their heyday, and that really turned me off from wanting elected office.

But now after so, like a decade of working in politics, I realize, like, sometimes you gotta put on the suit and fight [laughs] at city council for what you want.

So my focus isn't a party, it's enhancing the quality of democracy.

As a North American, watching democracy on life support has been really, it's been really troubling.

I'm not a 20-year politician, and I've lived your experience."

Yeah

...

I come from a line of, um, a lot of pain.

There's just a lot of ancestral trauma.

I think so many of us have that, if not everybody, which is a bold statement, so I'll say most of us.

Um, and it was just very prevalent in my childhood, and I always was trying to escape it.

And so I would find solace in the fields, the flowers, the trees.

... you know, say what you like and, and pontificate a little bit if you feel like you need to.