So what did you learn preparing for the Coldwater job to take over that maybe you weren't ready for when you took over the Middletown job the first time?

Yeah.

That's a, that's a, that's a great question.

A- and like you said, experience and, and, um, I guess that when I was at Middletown, I'm not really a confrontational person, and so there, there were some things in Middletown that, that I, I should have or could have been, uh, more, uh, demanding of, of whatever.

Um, and so, so not being a confrontational person, it was hard to, to dive in and say, "Come on in here, young man.

We need to, we need to have a talk about this." So I've gotten better at that, for sure.

Uh, and mainly, I guess just experience and, and, uh, seeing John, sh- watching John do it.

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