If it was in

there, if it was reported, because another statistic we came up with, and we had a hard time getting this number, developing this number.

People kept asking, well, there's got to be some percentage of people who don't report them.

And we played with that.

And then it couldn't come up in a number that jived.

And then in 2017, July of 2017, Fox Pictures was doing a movie about, they set this horror movie against the Phoenix Lights.

And they did a poll about that time.

So Cheryl, tell us again, the name of your new book that's coming out.

When you say it like that, it actually adds more, it's got more power to it, you know, more oomph as well, right?

Oh, you want to know when I scare the editors out of the room.

That's when I, that's when.

So, but then they say, Cheryl, they can't get here from there.

Okay.

But okay.

First thing.

Your mom said that?

[laughs]

We were coming down off the hill from my uncle's farm.

And we were getting ready to go down, we were on a dirt road, getting ready to go down to the state road to go, go back to our hometown.

And, um, my mother had my father stop the car.

Now, the western sky was clear blue, not a cloud in the sky, and parked out there like a rock, uh, was this big silver ball.

[laughs] And to give you an idea how big it is, if most people lift, you know, hold their arm out, you know, look at your little fingernail, that's how big it was, okay? And- Wow ...

my mom looked at me and says, "You know, it could be something NASA's doing." This is '65.

[laughs]