I mean, do you, do you agree that it's getting to that point? Or do you just see this as just pure, raw corruption, Trump has just turned over to raw corruption?

Um, that's a very good question, and ultimately that is the question.

And in short, my answer is I don't know, but I, I can elaborate a little bit more than that.

Uh, I'm sure you've had this experience, Owen.

Um, you know, you worked for Infowars for a lot longer than I did, but we know, w- two and a half years, three years that I was there, we were busting our ass trying to get Trump elected.

And, uh, I w- I was somebody who wholeheartedly believed in Trump, um, up, leading up into the election.

I thought, "Man, this is our last chance.

I could see her maybe n- not so, uh, striking as you or I might approach the subject matter, but, like, talking about how the war with Iran is a disaster, talking about how the Ukraine war is a disaster, and, and bringing this stuff from a formal Trump, uh, former Trump administrator into the mainstream, and it'll be a little different than a Joe Kent doing it, uh, for obvious reasons.

And then

there's just the general kind of economic component that we have to protect the petrodollar.

So I think that most of our decisions in the region are some combination with different weights of those three reasons.

And I think.

I can't really explicitly explain with any certainty why it is that we're really going after Iran in this conflict.

But I can tell you that I don't believe for a minute it's because we were trying to prevent them from having a nuclear weapon.

In fact, I think they probably had a nuclear weapon for decades at this point in time.

You're right.

We analyze everything and we come to our own respective conclusions and we hope to be able to substantiate them, which is where I say anybody espousing the exploding microphone theory has some answers to provide for how they can possibly believe that.

That's your cue.

I believe in the exploding microphone theory, but I don't believe in it like a Flat Earther believes in the Flat Earth.

I'm like 55-45.

You know what I mean? I could totally be convinced that that didn't happen.

It just looks like it to me.

The extent to which I have any expertise or credibility in having that position... is I've got a degree in audio engineering, and I know how you're supposed to wear a lapel mic, and it's weird that they put it on the inside.

Go for it.

Yeah.

So my theory, and I'm not at all convinced of this theory, it's just what's been running in the back of my mind for a couple years, is that because we, we detached the dollar from gold and we had this massive inflation in the '70s, I actually think that feminism in large and the depopulation crisis in large is, uh, an unintentional response to inflation, right? So you have massive inflation.

Suddenly, you know, and we come from a culture that is proud of the fact that a, a, you know, a father can provide on a single income for a family of four.

Now suddenly, because of inflation, it's more and more difficult to do that, even impossible.

So as a psychological cope, there's feminism, it's okay for the women to work, and then as a result of that, people build careers, and they marry later, and they have fewer children.

Like, I think a lot of this is, is a, is a inadvertent response to inflation since the '70s.

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... here, I understand where you're coming from, and I actually agree with everything that you're saying.

Is there any other way of looking at this? Am I being dense?

I don't believe that you're being dense.

That is how I perceive it as well, though there are certain details or there's certain contexts that may make it sound less atrocious than that, though sounding less atrocious than that doesn't make it actually less atrocious than that.

Where do I begin? Bibi Netanyahu understands that there's a massive PR crisis in terms of people in the United States and their perception of Israel as a state.

Traditionally speaking, evangelical conservative voters in the United States of America, even Democrats in large, have all been by default very supportive of Israel.

Everybody's heart goes out to Israel because of what happened during the Holocaust.

We grew up watching World War II movies here in the United States of America from Saving Private Ryan all the way through The Pianist, all the way through Schindler's List.

So if there are threats to us through intelligence because they're spying on us, if there are threats to us through bio-warfare, I kind of ask the question in what way they are our greatest ally, but if this is a country we should have concerns about, whether they are our ally or not, why are we getting in bed with them to the point of creating a military partnership where there will be no differentiation between who's funding who? I suppose what I'm getting to, Chase, is how are they our greatest allies and what do we get from this?

I mean, there's a lot of people, not a lot, but there are people making a ton of money off of this right now.

100%.

And there's a lot of money that's going to be made after the IMEC corridor is installed through HIFA.

Are you familiar at all with the IMEC corridor? No.

You should look this up after we talk.

So China is in a artificial intelligence arms race with the United States of America, as well as an economic war with the United States of America.

China is doing everything that it can to subvert the dollar as a global reserve currency, mostly because of sanctions.

Is that what Venezuela was all about then in your view?