Because he gives, he's a misogynistic pig, but he does give a good fight talk.

What I learned was throughout the process, when I got the fight, they come to me in July and they're like, hey, we potentially got this fight with Andrew Tate, but he's going to, he wants you to make this weight.

He's going to have rehydration claws and rematches.

And I'm sitting there thinking like for a four-time world kickboxing champion, he's putting a lot of, a lot of barriers of safety.

Yeah, barriers to safety on a reality TV star that on paper shouldn't even last two rounds with you.

And as we went through the process, he would come on and he would only say things when he was around 100 of his henchmen or talking about his cars and all this.

And I showed up with my 18-year-old cousin and my head coach.

the

Or is it just like, let's get the bag, let's get it?

Yeah, I don't know if you remember a couple of years ago, they did like the YouTuber versus TikTok boxing.

And it was pretty viral for a bit.

You know, this is 2020 when, you know, the world was shut down essentially.

And I was kind of just on the verge of, you know, still trying to transition if I was going to go off and try to get into the NFL and do that whole thing again because I was playing up in the Canadian League and stuff.

I went to a workout with the San Diego Superchargers.

I kid you not.

Trust me,

So when did you come up with the idea, and what made you really say, like, "I know I could do it different"?

Yeah, obviously, what I tell everybody is when you go on reality TV, you have to look at it as, like, a step.

It's not the end of all ends.

It's an opportunity to essentially grow yourself, and if you do it correctly, you can find a lot of success in it.

And what I found personally was it was never about me going on this show and then blowing up.

It was about me going on this show and then quickly trying to find the next thing to focus on.

I think, oh, I was like, "I need to hurry up and get back into football, and now that I've built this audience, this fan base, hopefully I can make a lot of money from jersey sales or whatever it is." And that was kind of the focus, is what can I do now so that I don't always have to focus on reality TV? 'Cause reality TV is not a guaranteed thing.

What does it look like as far as monetizing from that point on?

Do you feel disrespected by the majority of fans that are predicting Tate to win?

Yeah, you know, there's going to be a lot of really upset people, you know, especially over there at duel.com because they're a bunch of frauds.

They got plus 4.8 me multiplier or something like that.

I'm not worried about any of that, guys.

So, you know, obviously they call me the Champa Claus, so I just want to start this by apologizing to...

Mr. Andy over there.

Andy, all humbly, I've gotten you a gift, my friend.

I think

I

want to say thank you to Andrew.

Obviously, that man, you guys have no idea.

What I said in the ring is 100% true.

I was going through a really dark time, my close friends know about this, and I used to listen to this man talk every single day, 45 minutes, hours sometimes, to the gym, to and from every podcast he said.

It really got me through that, and everybody asked me, like, what keeps you guys showing up, you know, after the viral miss swing, or the ground and pound, or even getting in there with BKFC champion Alan Belcher, and obviously it was Andrew that got me through that, you know, he...

He says a lot of things that resonate with a lot of different people, whether you believe it or not.

What's the overriding feeling that you have right

It almost seems like he thinks all that talking is insecurity coming from you.

I have a lot of people call it insecurity, but I've been in this fight game for a few years now and I've never shut my mouth.

They always say one day I'm going to find out.

I've been trying to test the theory.

I've called out much bigger people than, you know, a four and three light heavyweight.

And all credit to him for winning a kickboxing championship however many decades ago in some promotion I've never heard of, but this is the real world.

You're going up against a much bigger, heavier, taller, longer, faster, stronger individual.

Do you feel like that breeds complacency? Do you feel like you want this more than he does?