Charlotte Tilbury

So Alec did Rupert Everett.

Flesh did Charlotte Tilbury.

KY Kelly did Jane McDonald.

Tequila Thirst did Helena Bonham Carter.

Yes, I do, because I'm I'm hearkening back to when you took me to one of these first events ever.

Which one? And you said, Mom, we're going to be meeting Charlotte Tilbury.

I said, Charlotte Tilbury.

And I thought, oh, she's Katie's crazy.

She's not going to be there.

And I thought, this has got to be a mistake.

So you talk about fake it till you make it.

I thought, Carol, think about all of the products that you may have even seen of Charlotte Tilbury.

off.

She messaged Charlotte Tilbury and said, I have some artists for

you.

I've got just the girl.

I'm like, oh, you're amazing.

But I knew of makeup artists like the girls that worked at MAC or like the really big makeup artists like Charlotte Tilbury and, you know, Pat McGrath.

They were like the main ones I knew those days.

Yeah.

So, Carrie Bradshaw was 32 at the start of Sex and the City.

Charlotte Tilbury didn't launch her brand until she was 40.

Darling.

You do a good impression of her.

Yeah, I mean, I forgot to say that being on that list, you were surrounded by, you know, established brands.

So shall I say, you know, companies like or brands like Chanel, Dermalogica, Charlotte Tilbury.

So again, no mean feat.

And particularly a brand which has a very much your...

Barbara Sturm, I think was, I don't know if she was a doctor, but you know, similar that same reason.

Charlotte Tilbury was a makeup artist and so was Pat McGrath and they had two different success stories.

So I think with Bobby Brown, it's something that was a very different era.

And it was an era where she was sold to a conglomerate, to Lorda, and there was a non-competent.