And what was the first... moment, the first spark, if you like, where you really ran with

it.

Yeah, I mean, having to use that analogy, I should have a very clear one to talk about, but I don't know that there was a first spark, but I definitely, I started my career, I sort of had got management, I was assigned by IMG as a sort of teenager, I started performing publicly, you know, I had a few kind of commercial opportunities, I guess, like I was covered by Men's Vogue as a musician and because I met a photographer, it was actually Brian Adams, the musician, and he then also invited me to play at the Albert Hall.

So I did this kind of collaboration with him, which again, was kind of more mainstream, outside of the box.

But it was again, I could have said, no, you know, this is not exactly what I would want to do.

I'm a, you know, classical violin, and I want to play Beethoven and Brahms.

But at the time, I was like, look, I've got to get things moving.

you got for yourself? I was selected.