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Charlie Hosner

May 29, 2026

17:13
[laughs] Perfect.
17:14
Good work.
17:15
So look, I, again, I live my life recovering companies from horrible things, and I've been doing it for 10 years, and it's been a long time since network segmentation mattered.
17:25
If you're talking about enterprise IT, these tools don't flow across logical network environments.
17:30
They flow through the identity backbone.
17:33
And so if you're gonna segment an IT environment, you have to segment it by identity, not by logical network structure.
17:40
So I'm not saying firewalls don't make sense, um, and, and the place where I like them the most is when, you know, previously we were talking about a complex environment and a complicated environment.
19:43
Okay.

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