Mm-hmm

... for me at the time.

I desperately wanted to breastfeed, and because her mouth was so incredibly bruised and sore, she really struggled.

She also developed jaundice, so the bruising caused a, a spike in bilirubin in her blood.

So we ended up staying in hospital for longer.

And in the UK, what do you expect to see, Charlie, if I was speaking to you a couple of years from now?

We really hope to see this widely rolled out into clinical practice.

Absolutely, we would love to see midwives using it, the device, and there's a real eagerness to do that.

Uh, you got involved after experiencing a forceps birth with your daughter, uh, Edie, who's now nine, and it really left an impression on you.

Yes, absolutely.

Yeah, so my daughter, Edie, she was delivered after a failed forceps attempt, actually, and it went to, uh, an emergency C-section.When she was born, she had significant bruising to her face.

Um, the forceps were actually misplaced, so they went over her face as opposed to the side.

And as a result of that, she really struggled to feed, which was quite, you know, heartbreaking-

Charlie, how widely is it being used at the moment?

So the device has been rolled out into five countries so far.

So there's five countries actively using.