Yeah.

So, uh, it was right at that time when, when venture was just coming back after the great recession.

And, um, Jeremy had built this really cool database where you could go online and you could type in chair and it would pop up like wing chair, arm chair, reclining chair, high chair.

And then you would click on it.

It'd be like, do you have weights and dimensions, which is always the hard part about shipping something for normal people is it's unpackaged and it doesn't have weights and dimensions.

So you've got to add You've got to add in pack dimensions.

You've got to estimate the way to produce a rig, right? So Jeremy had this database that had some canned data on every item you could think of, and it would make these intelligent suggestions.

Carbomatic, ShipOctane, airspace, I'm better at picking these things than most of the VCs.